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Okay, American airports.

How far can you go without a ticket?

In England you check your luggage in, show your passport and get your boarding pass at the check-in desk, then you have to show your passport and b-pass as you go through into the Duty Free area. This is where there are more shops and restaraunts and it also has access to all the gates and lounges. If you have no ticket, then you cannot get into this area.

So, how does it work in america? For international flights?

I have been to America, but it was a couple of years ago and the whole thing is a bit of a blur. Can't remember.

So, just to ramble on a bit more, if you were not the one flying, but you were there to hang out and say goodbye, could you go right up to the gate? Or just the check in desk? Or the duty free? Lounge?

Detail would be appreciated.

Thank you!

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Date: 2005-04-13 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com
Mmm...I have been to DFW (Dallas), JFK (New York) and O'Hare (Chicago). Oh, crap, I just read that you wrote international flights. Hmmm...I flew from DFW to Mexico City, but I don't know if that's technically "international." But basically it's as you described, you check your bags, present your ticket, get your boarding pass and then show your passport and boarding pass again to get into the actual terminal where the restaurants, shops and gates are. I don't know of any major airports that allow visitors past the lobby anymore. Hope that helps, some.

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Date: 2005-04-14 09:58 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Europe by Neonbliss)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! That really does help!

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Date: 2005-04-13 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phendog.livejournal.com
Hmmm...w/o a ticket or w/o a reservation on the plane?

They're really strict about luggage matching. You don't need a paper ticket to check your bag in, but they look you up in the computer and check your ID. If you don't have a reservation and proper ID no luggage.

I THINK you can make it all the way to the gate otherwise and then they require your boarding pass. You have to present your ticket at the counter to get your boarding pass. Might want a confirmation on that though...I'm thinking they don't check for tickets at the metal detectors, but I could be wrong.

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:01 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Europe by Neonbliss)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
Thank you! That helps a lot!

So, is there a place where, if you didn't have a ticket or reservation, you could go and have drink or something to eat with a person who *is* flying?

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phendog.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think I was wrong before. I think you do need a ticket to get into the terminal (with the gift shops and whatnot). So anything past the metal detectors and x-ray machines is off-limits.

Um as to whether a flyer and non-passenger could meet up, depends on the airport, I think. I know our big airport around here has a Starbucks the minute you walk in the door, so I know anyone could go have coffee there ticket or not. (Of course I do live in Washington State where Starbucks was born, so maybe that's just an us thing. Seriously, we should just adopt the little green starbucks logo as our state seal.) Most of the other shops and restaurants are on the other side of the metal detector though.

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:19 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Europe by Neonbliss)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
Oooh, right, Starbucks! Great! That is very convenient, as I do have a coffee shop in the fic. I've also included a Macdonalds. Do you think that is likely in *any* airport? Or maybe a different fastfood place? (Before the X-ray machines, that is)

I know that my airport is fictional, but I'd like at least some realism! :o)As long as I know that *some* airports in America have these things, then I'll be happy! :o)

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phendog.livejournal.com
Do you think that is likely in *any* airport? Or maybe a different fastfood place?

Hmm... I don't know. It seems like a coffee shop wouldn't be uncommon, but I'm honestly not sure. Usually when I pass through airports I'm too tired to care about catching details like that.

I can only tell you that our airport does.

It would make sense to have a place where people can meet up though...

Maybe ask this question over at [livejournal.com profile] little_details?

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:33 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Europe by Neonbliss)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
Thanks for all your help.

I'm the same. I passed thru San Diego airport a couple of years back and the only thing I can remember is the long cue to check in!

I think i just might ask there, too. Thanks.

And thanks for the confirmation of a Starbucks, that really does fit in nicely.

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Date: 2005-04-13 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleeaz.livejournal.com
You can't get anywhere in American airports after you've gone the security check. Up till then you can be anywhere you want to be. I got in to drop off & pick-up Ashley only because she's under the age of sixteen. Still had to go through security w/ papers to show that yes I was picking her up and yes I was her mother (major PITA). Cindy Lee

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:01 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Europe by Neonbliss)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
Thanks for the help!

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Date: 2005-04-13 09:56 pm (UTC)
ext_2351: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com
I think everyone else has really explained it. Basically, you can go to luggage claim and the lobby if you don't have a ticket. Once you go through the metal detector to get where the shops and things are, you must have a ticket.

Oh, and you can have five books of matches with you, but no lighters whatsoever on the plane. *shrugs*

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Date: 2005-04-14 09:57 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Europe by Neonbliss)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
And what's in the lobby? *please* tell me there are some shops. At least a restaraunt or a coffee bar? *please* ~whines~ Anything?

Matches? Five? Books? Oh, you guys don't have *boxes* of matches?

Thanks, sweetie!

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:21 am (UTC)
ext_2351: (gah by sukibluefiction)
From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com
Well, usually the only things in the lobby are restrooms, vending machines, seating, and the places where you buy your tickets from the different airlines and customer service. All the shops and stuff are usually behind the gate now.

We do have boxes of matches, but those are usually big. Books of matches are smaller and portable. Like what you'd bring home from a restaurant or a bar with the fold-over flap. I also saw today that you can't even pack a lighter into your checked luggage anymore. WTF?

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:30 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Europe by Neonbliss)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
Hm, I'm starting to think that it depends where you fly from. Washington has a Starbucks, which is great, so now I just need confirmation of somewhere that has a Macdonalds or similar. I just wish I could remember the layout of San Diego Airport. I remember cueing, but that's it!

No lights? I hope that isn't the case here! I need my lighters!!

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:55 am (UTC)
ext_2351: (inversion by chocgood84)
From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com
I think you're right. Nobody's gonna think twice about whether or not there might be a coffeeshop before the gate. So I say go for it.

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Date: 2005-04-14 11:03 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Default)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
Thanks, sweetie!

Oooh, another qestion. Do your airports ever have malls or mini-malls attached or very near? Here at Gartwick airport we have two terminals and one of them has a kind of shopping centre attached between the airport and Gatwick train station.

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Date: 2005-04-14 11:10 am (UTC)
ext_2351: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think so. I'm not really all that much of a flier, and I am also the most unobservant human ever born, so I can't say for sure. But I can say that if you told me there was one, I would totally believe you. LOL

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Date: 2005-04-14 11:16 am (UTC)
ext_11979: (Garfield by Kyrieane)
From: [identity profile] suki-blue.livejournal.com
But I can say that if you told me there was one, I would totally believe you. LOL

LOL! That's okay, then! hee!

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phendog.livejournal.com
The no more lighter in checked luggage thing is because some of the plastic ones have been breaking open lately and spreading their fluid in the luggage making it a firehazard.

For suki, this is a matchbook (http://www.evnn.com/matchbook.jpg). It's maybe 6 cm (guessing) tall and has a striker strip on the back.

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:53 am (UTC)
ext_2351: (beneath me by jjjean65)
From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com
Oh, I see. I guess that makes sense. I wouldn't want my things covered in lighter fluid even if they didn't go up in flames. LOL

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phendog.livejournal.com
*L* Yeah. I've had shampoo bottle explode in my luggage more than once and anything like that is far from pleasant!

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Date: 2005-04-14 10:57 am (UTC)
ext_2351: (broken by emella)
From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com
That is why anal-retentive!Lorraine always packs her toiletries in Ziplocs. *g* *hates it that her mother was always right*

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Date: 2005-04-14 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phendog.livejournal.com
*L* Actually I DID have my shampoo in the Ziploc. Of course I apparently didn't close the ziploc well enough...

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